Eoras Northwind
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Eoras Northwind on 08/02/2009 21:32:26
Originally by: CCP Whisper However we have not seen a similar growth in the numbers using our Linux client.
And your numbers are wrong. Have you even corrected for the significantly larger Mac OS install base vs Linux? It's very hard to even count the number of "Linux" desktops.
Originally by: CCP Explorer We are retiring the support for the official Linux client running on top of Cedega, for which we have accurate numbers.
FWIW, I use the wine client, but bought and have installed the 'Official Linux Client' originally. Due to the lack of quality in the official client, every Eve-Online Linux user I know either personally or via the game uses Wine or dual boots. So while I'm an actual sale, I (OpenSUSE 11.1 x86_64 + wine) don't show up in your numbers, proving your numbers questionable.
Originally by: CCP Whisper It is for this reason that I am sorry to have to announce that from the 10th of March onwards CCP will no longer be officially supporting the Linux operating system.
I'm sorry, but you can't discontinue support for that which never existed.
It's a nice farce, but the Offical "Linux Client" never was.
~/.cedega/EVE Online/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/EVE tcsh-6.15.00>file eve.exe eve.exe: MS-DOS executable PE for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit
The Eve Online Linux client is as native as notepad.exe.
The Cider technology simply let you run your WINDOWS ONLY compiled python client on a Linux system. This is identical to running it under wine. It's still a bloated, slow PXE executable. It still needs the wineloader and wine environment. It's still a Direct X application using slow OpenGL translation.
It's why I threw the beta away +5 years ago and stayed away until 2007. Direct X developers and their users are the definition of a captive audience. You live and work when and how Microsoft wants you to. Each sale is less about your profit than about one company enforcing it's one way of doing business: funneling more cash into it's monopoly at the expense of others and quality.
Originally by: CCP Whisper As you may know, we have been working in partnership with Transgaming Technologies, utilizing their Cider engine to allow EVE Online to run on the Mac OS and their Cedega engine to enable operation under Linux.
In my opinion, CCP picked the wrong company to do the "porting." Cedega once had the leading implementation of DirectX on Linux, but their tiny team worked on their private and increasingly hacked up fork of ancient wineX code. They could not keep up with the Open Source wine project. Today, wine runs more applications better than Cedega. The company that sponsors wine, Crossover, even has a game-specific version with similar features to Cedega.
All you are doing is no longer testing and fixing issues Cedega. Why not do so under wine? Sooner or later, CCP will make changes that cause WINE to stop working, probably also killing the part your Mac fanbase who also use WINE.
So, CCP, will you continue to test? When will the first showsopper bug be?
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